Nov 7
The Veil
“You shall make a veil woven of blue, purple, and scarlet thread, and fine woven linen. It shall be woven with an artistic design of cherubim. Ex. 26:31
With trembling heart you stand inches away from a new understanding of Eternity, an entirely different perspective of infinity, and a fear of God that will be etched into your memory. Years from now you will recall the moment as if it were merely seconds ago.
THE TABERNACLE IS A MODEL OF GOD HIMSELF
Do not forget, God is revealing himself to you every moment of your time here. It is good not to get so caught up in the journey and the expected revelations that you lose sight of who the journey is about. Even before you enter the next Room of Mystery, the Holy of Holies, it is good to pause, and while you wait recite this truth to your self - In all things God is revealing Himself to me.
It cannot be said too often, this truth must sink into your spirit, not just your brain - God has been revealing Himself to you this entire journey. The entire Tabernacle is designed as a means of God revealing Himself to you. There is nothing you can see anywhere in here that does not reveal God’s name, heart, and way.
While you wait for God to lift the Veil, you look at the Cherubim overhead. As animate designs of Cherubim they are not moving here, but in Heaven they orbit around the Throne like the electron orbits around the nucleus of an Atom and they do it very, very fast.
WHAT WENT THROUGH THE PRIEST’S MIND?
What went through the priest mind as he looked at the designs of the four colors of Blue, Purple, Scarlet and the white Cherubim woven in the Veil? The other two curtains he had crossed were of the same four colors, but this one… this one was so different that those two. Why? What would He feel when the Veil began to lift? Would he really die if there was one spot, one wrinkle, one blemish? What would happen if he just took a short peek around the Veil into the Holies of Holies. Is God actually there? What is He waiting for? The wait must have been agonizing.
THE VEIL’S TWO PURPOSES
It is clear that this Veil served as a barrier and had two functions; to keep God at a distance and to keep man from intimacy with Him. You see, sin the destroyer of creation must be distanced from the Creator - not because sin would harm or conquer God, but that God in His wrath would destroy the sinner.
SILVER AND REDEMPTION
Perhaps the Priest looked at the silver base of the Golden walls with their sockets that held each panel of the walls in place. Perhaps he saw the Gold of Heaven, the Dust of Earth and the only thing between the two was the Silver base. Is it any wonder that Silver is the color of redemption and represents what Jesus did in reconciling God and man. Amazing, it is here, in the Holy Place of the Sanctuary that it was prophesied what would happen more than fifteen hundred years before Jesus would fulfill it.
Did the priest wonder why silver? Did he know the silver base represented the Messiah, the hope of mankind? Did He understand that the basis for salvation would shift because the Messiah would be all in all, fulfilling all things, becoming all things, the very things he now stewarded within the confines of this cloth and skin boundaried Tabernacle?
GOD’S SPIRIT RESTED UPON THEM
Did the Priest notice the beauty and intricacy of the weavings? Did he understand that the spirit of God had rested on the men who were chosen to perform this task and in that “rest” God’s Spirit imparted the design, that even to this day no one is exactly sure what it looked like?
Before we become hasty in our passion to bring our wonderings to an end, it would be good to be just a little more patient, and consider a few more elements that should catch your attention. The reality is this, it is in the wonder of this moment that you are being prepared to meet the Creator of all things. The last vestiges of you are being removed. Times that are this weighty merit greater attention.
Blessings,
John Paul
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Yes, I am now, more than ever, absolutely convinced that God “causes all things to work together for GOOD!” - Romans 8:28
In eternity/heaven; “This life will be but a dream when our sorrows pass away - like a fragrance gently lingering to remind us of God’s Grace.”
God’s creative Spirit is a great blessing! Understanding these details really opens one up to the ways of God. Thanks John Paul.
I will always explain the changes
I like that line: “It cannot be said too often, this truth must sink into your spirit, not just your brain–God has been revealing Himself to you this entire journey.”
Do y’all ever hit “brain overload”???
This afternoon I hit it and know I can’t take in one more tidbit of information or my brain will explode.
I pray as I “shut down” that the Holy Spirit will store up the diamonds–burn up the hay and bring refreshing.
Renew me Lord!
Linda
Good Morning Saints:
“The wait must have been agonizing.”
We must allow the Lord to cleanse our vessels. Seek the Deliverer today. And also check our hearts for unforgiveness. The Lord wants us to stop making judgments about one another. There are many of us who do not have the correct doctrines or the teachings who bare the fruit of the Spirit. We must also not allow fear of man to prevent us from loving the Lord and our brothers and sisters completely. We must place his Diety above our dignity.
The expectation of the moment we are in is breathtaking.
May the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ fill your hearts and minds as you continue on in your journey.
Thanks for being there everyone. Love, Holly
This Glory, though it is purposed for many, few will be given it. It is for the ones that have been tried and are proven. These are the ones that are deeply in love with their King. They have separated themselves from all things and diligently seek not knowledge or joy, but their King only. This Glory is distributed in the High Mountain, and will be containing miracles of healings,great wisdom, and deliverance for those in the prison houses,and those who are blind and bound in affliction. These are those who daily decrease and exalt the Lamb only. They seek the King and will be given his glory because they are ready in an instant to share the love of Jesus with the lowest of this present world,which is the heart of the Father of all Glory.
JPJ-With trembling heart you stand inches away from a new understanding of Eternity, an entirely different perspective of infinity, and a fear of God that will be etched into your memory. Years from now you will recall the moment as if it were merely seconds ago.
I ponder, what will it feel like, and how profoundly different will I be, because you know that you know, you could never be the same again.
As this pivotal moment draws near, I sense it is something I waited a long time for, and even long for.
Yet, I still feel like I lack understanding in all of it.
What helps Israel not to miss her day of visitation? The Law. But she missed it.
What helps the church not to miss the King? The gospel of the kingdom.
By the way, read the letters on http://www.fivedoves.com, they are updated almost DAILY. There is much meat of the word there. They will help you much.
God, are you avoiding me ?
Where are you when I need you ?
What is this all about? Where does this get us?
A few hours ago I started dragging out my Bethlehem village pieces and accessories that I display in my living room. I borrow big rocks from my neighbor for the mountains and I try to make it realistic as I can.
I found the neatest piece in Lowes. It is a scene of a mother eagle in a nest with her little eaglets nestled in the snowy rocks—like a precipice— and high above is the father eagle soaring in freedom, yet watching over his precious ones at the same time…..
Now I have to incorporate that piece in my mountains that overlook Bethlehem.
Someone from the outside will probably wonder why I have the eagle scene in my village—what does that have to do with the birth of Jesus……..
I just have to say I felt God told me to add that this year…
Eagle saints arise!!!
Linda
PS>John Paul, I ‘ll be praying that you will be able to launch out into more deeper waters in the Spirit after being refreshed from your “bone” fishin’…whatever that is. Enjoy your fellowship with Bro. RT!
A friend of mine told me about a little 5 year old boy, NOAH BIORKMAN, who is in the last stages of Neuroblastoma cancer. His family is celebrating Christmas this week.
All he wants are Christmas cards from all over the world.
His address is: 1141 Fountain View Circle/ South Lyon, MI 48178/ USA.
Let’s pray and believe for God to move with His wonderful compassion and healing on Noah’s behalf!!!
Love, Linda
The light of day is a daily gift ~given to us as a reminder that we should walk in the light while we have the light. At night I sometimes like to light a candle and enter into prayer. This helps to remind me that I am never called to walk in the darkness. As you see God’s created light, accept it as a guardian keeper of your faith. God is light and in Him there is no darkness! Let the light enter into your soul and shine on those around you.
Dear John Paul,
What a brilliant mind you have. It is hard following you to the places you are taking us, but it is fascinating at the same time.
I remember when you came to Detling in the UK last year and I heard your talk. Parts of it escaped me but the Holy Spirit managed to grab my attention at the very point where I needed to hear you, and He pierced right through my heart and at that point I could see and understand exactly what you were saying.
Glad to hear about the dreambloggers website soon to be running and the opportunity to have a kind of forum where we can all share our dreams and learn from each other’s insights and revelation.
God bless you,
Mercedes
Trust is a word that is on my spirit right now.
The definition of that word is a firm belief or confidence in the honesty, integrity, reliability, justice of another person or thing, faith; reliance to the person or thing trusted.
I have always felt that my calling is that of a “handmaid prophet”. My training is not for the local house—I work for the Lord. He has invested a lot of time training me to be a servant.
I’ve been a member of my church almost 30 years and I have never held an office there. I am an intercessor there and a servant there.
It seems God uses me outside the four walls more than at the church.
I don’t know what is expected of me. When I had my pastor’s interview last week, my pastor knows that God uses me outside. I’m not looking for a prophetic title, I am a love slave for Jesus.
Up to this point God has not touched my lips with the coals—just my hands. That is why I have always thought I was called to be His handmaid.
I don’t know why HE had me start this blog in May after you came to my church. I want to be obedient and teachable. I want to go to the next level whatever that is.
I’m not a game player. I just want to be in the center of His will fulfilling the destiny that I have been chosen to fulfill.
HIS handmaid,
Linda
This prophetic time-frame that we are in… how close are we to seeing the Ark of the Covenant openly revealed, so that Israel can rebuild the third temple?
And, how does this relate to the time-frame of the Veil being lifted?
I couldn’t help but wonder?
John Paul Wrote:
THE VEIL’S TWO PURPOSES
It is clear that this Veil served as a barrier and had two functions; to keep God at a distance and to keep man from intimacy with Him. You see, sin the destroyer of creation must be distanced from the Creator - not because sin would harm or conquer God, but that God in His wrath would destroy the sinner.
My Response:
John Paul,I don’t mean too sound mechanical here. I just want to distinguish my thoughts from your thoughts, which are actually God’s thoughts because it all flows from His Throne when it is all about what He wants to do for mankind here upon this wonderful earth that He created for us to enjoy and especially on this wonderful blog, called Coffee Talk! Whoa, where did that come from, ok, the throne. Ok, I need to focus and get right to the point regarding what the Lord has revealed to me regarding the veil and how it applies to my life and I believe the life of everyone destined to be a believer.
He showed me how every living being on the face of this earth was made to become a temple of His Holy Spirit and that the only thing that separates us from this reality is His Love tearing through the Veil. The only way of course is through His Blood and the acknowledgment that we all have sinned and fallen short of His Glory. If unbeliever’s knew this already, that the Kingdom of God lies dormant in them until they acknowledge their need for a savior the sky would be the limits and His Second coming would be closer than we would ever know. Its all about the veil being torn in two within our temple so that we could all shine like the son and in this reality would be truly free indeed. Blessings to you on this Glorious Day!
Love
In His New Day,
Shirley C.
Hey JP,
I have a question. You said in a past post that no matter how intense or beautiful the experience has been, that our feet never left the planet. Did I already have the veil lifted? It was very intense and the Father spoke to me. I am being very well provided for still living outside in a homeless camp. Last night the Lord met us powerfully through a girl who was deeply embedded into a sinful life. It was awesome. I’m just wondering if I’m waiting for something else that has already occurred. Any answers? Thanks, Holly
o Well..
I hope to be standing under alamapost
with the mine of chris ending my nrevopuse/con.
waiting for a ” flick “
John Paul,
I am now at the end of a long productive day since my last post of this blog. The meaning of the significance of the veil keeps lingering within my spirit. I have a question, after we receive Jesus and we come into the initial reality that the veil of the temple was torn in two after Jesus’s crucifixion and the reality of this is being played out in our innermost being what temple were they talking about in the scriptures, was it solomons temple or the Holy of Holies wthin the rooms of mystery embeded withinthe heart of mankind waiting to be released and discovered? Also, is each room of mystery that we have entered separated by veils or curtains. I have the feeling that veils and curtains are one in the same. I get the feeling there needs to be some clarification between the veil that we enter thru at salvation and the veils that cover the other rooms of mystery.
Shirley C.
The use of light in the Bible has been both figurative and literal. I’m trying to wrap my brain around a literal temple with little natural light applied to our lives figuratively. *frown* Leads a bit to a brain cramp.
While taking the kinks out of my gray matter I consider why, whether it is literal or figurative, mankind must enter into a dark place in order to meet with a God who typically clothes Himself and manifests Himself often in the light. Though he is Lord both of darkness and light, since of course, He created both, why is it that people enter into a ‘darkness’ to meet God? Moses even entered a dark cloud on the mountain to meet with God. The temple gets darker the further in that you go. The ‘dark night’ of the soul or spirit is figuratively a dark experience.
Of course I cannot shed the perspective I now have in life. It is a dark time and often feels like abandonment by God. In fact, I see it is not uncommon for Christians to pray, as did Christ, ‘my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’ I can’t help but think maybe as this darkness is pulled over me like a thick smothering garment there will be a sudden creation of light in my life. Like light was created even before the heavenly bodies I hope to be reborn into something new. I hope for the light to reveal the truth and the way.
We must be born again. This in a way parallels a new, or second creation. God suddenly figuratively creates light in our life. We become new creations. The figurative use of light indicates being able to see or having things revealed to us. Also inherent with having light is orientation. Without an initial enlightening we are unable to see the truth about Jesus and thus orient ourselves to Him. I believe it is also that it is only as His light shines in us that we continue to see, know, and understand what is real…what is truth.
So, John Paul my thoughts wander behind the veil. Will He manifest Himself as light in this place? Will the literal darkness parallel the figurative dark night of the spirit? When will His light shine? Ultimately, why do the priests enter a literal darkness and we enter a figurative darkness in order to meet with God?
I long for a vivid, tangible, life altering experience with God and I have gathered from your sharing that you have experienced some. Are these experiences what you consider going behind the veil? Is the figurative rending of veil in our hearts the point at which we cry out ‘my God, my God why have you forsaken me’ and in a sense die to ourselves? Is this only gained through obedience in suffering as Christ learned obedience in suffering? Are these vivid experiences with God only for the prophetic and seers who have a message to return to those still in darkness? Or, is going beyond the veil in these types of experiences for everyone who holds firm to the hope in Christ and remains obedient? Oh so many questions
Of course, I do not wax theological or philosophical for the sake of argument but for the wonder of the reasons behind the cup I am drinking from in this life. I pray that it be passed from me but not my will but His be done. However, my hope and salvation is in Christ. It is this hope grounded in faith He is true though I cannot see…cannot see the covenant behind the veil…but hope in His promises and have faith in what I cannot see.
Well, I ramble…must stop!
One of Those
The veil was rent in twain revealing the Holy of holies. Its not complicated. Nothing about the King is! The Tree of the knowledge of good and Evil, is the Law. The Tree of Life is Grace. The letter kills! What letter? The letter that God wrote and gave to Moses to deliver to the Mixed multitude below. The letter was given only to magnify sin, Up to that point we all thought that we are not so bad, at least I don’t do this or that! After the letter was delivered and read, now we see just how sinful we are! Christ Jesus our King is the end of the letter [the Law] Therefore let us come boldly into the holy of holies,and approach the Throne of Grace! God the Father is our father! Our Daddy! Our Big brother is God the Son! Welcome Home!
My Son, my son, Why are you striving? You can’t add one thing to whats been done for you. I did it all, while I was dying. Rest in your faith and my peace will come to you! For when I hear the praises start, I want to rain upon you, blessings that will fill your heart, I see no stain upon you, because you are my child, and you know me! To me your only Holy! Nothing that you done remains, only what you do with me! My precious bride the day is nearing, when I take you in my arms and hold you! I know theres so many things that you been hearing, but you just hold on to what I told you! For when I hear the praises start, I want to rain upon you, blessings that will fill your heart, I see no stain upon you, because you are my child and you know me, to me your only holy, nothing that you’ve done will remain, only what you’ve done with me!
A man was on a beach in deep thought. Trying to understand God, the trinity, the temple, the veil, all the mysteries. As he struggled and struggled, he saw in the distance, a child. The child had a pail and he was going down to the water, and filling the pail, and carring it up to the sand and pouring it in a hole. the child kept repeating it over and over again! This caused the man to be very courious, and he approach the child and asked him what he was doing? The child said that he was going to put the ocean in the hole. The man replied, son you can’t fit that ocean in that little hole. The child replied, neither can you fit the vastness of God in that little brain!